QuizmasterBos Wrote:Not to be mean against the Dirty Monkey, but I think that Dirty Monkey's style doesn't exactly fit this game. I much prefer Soloid's Peach pics. Especially since he is actually on LoK, so we are all able to point out what can be improved and then that will likely happen.
I'm open to discuss, so let's go!
Dirty Monkey is a hentai illustrator, so his pics are like full portraits, all done using brush. These are detailed pictures, like done with oil paint. They should not be used in the game engine (e.g while Peach is walking) and those art are not supposed to be converted to pen tool, as they are perfect for steady scenes (like the game over screen). That way, high quality pictures dont take even 1% of CPU resources. So his pictures fall in the right spot (where the game lacks), like cut scenes, game over scene, surprise scenes (all of them using a fixed picture in the background). I really like this style. Its not only because 'I like it and thats it' but because of Peach features (hips, boob proportions) and the overall body shape.
But! I would like to let you people decide. There are some concepts I would like to maintain, but there are others that can give more value to this game, so yes, we can discuss. Dirty Monkey and me created the horny bar, and he created that nice Peach (front pose) in the pause menu. I can give Soloid total permission to change everything he wants (he's in our team now, and I see his total dedication of this work), but I really need a more hentai Peach appearance (like the former images I've shown before, and these ones below). Or if Soloid improves his Peach model (again, I like her so far! But she needs improvement), then I will change them, informing Dirty Monkey before the action. So far, I still prefer the 'original' Peach style, as below:
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According to Soloid, if he makes a Peach model close to those styles (again, you people can decide, not only me), I can cast all the required changes.
QuizmasterBos Wrote:Also, you are spending money, but you aren't making any (from this game that is). So I'm not really sure this should continue.
He (Dirty Monkey) is expected to keep contributing to the game. The act of paying for, say, 50 new pictures in a 8-world full game, is not expected, as this game is made of contributions, really. The only problem Dirty Monkey can have in the future is lack of time to contribute with art. Then I'll require a dedicated artist to complete the game with me with the art the majority of people would like to see, but at least maintaining the conception I depicted. This communication between me and developers/designers includes a formal reunion, TODO lists each week/month, and using IM like skype preferably). We're in a stage that the project needs more commitment to continue steadly. Right now, there are five designers ready to make the commitment: Luftmallow, Asian, Biles, Yuri and Soloid. Between these great men, I think only Soloid can make a 'brush' Peach (like DM) that could be used in the intermission areas. Making Peach art (like in Photoshop) is not easy and takes days to be complete. Its not like making objects (like chairs, walls, even the Peach model in the game). Peach 'full' art has details and a given feeling.
QuizmasterBos Wrote:Now, I know that I am not the only one that prefers Soloid's or someone else's style. And considering that you are out to please as many as possible, I am almost thinking that you should... um... start... another... poll? Does anyone agree with me?
I'm afraid the pool will give bad feelings, that is, let's say 99% prefer Soloid and 1% prefer Dirty Monkey. So I'll kick DM butt? That shouldnt work that way. But I can cast a pool about expected Peach styles (I can put even ARCON8 images as references). Depending on the choices, all Peach art in the game will need to be like the choosen picture. Then, all artists that contributed before (like Dirty Monkey, Soda and even Playshapes himself) will be notified of the change, as it will be definitive. As for Peach model, she could have my style (current), playshapes style, soloid style and yuri style (those changes will not affect game speed), so we dont need to bother which Peach MODEL (the one we play with) should be default or not in the game.
QuizmasterBos Wrote:Before I forget, I took a look at the Peach comparison pics and her eyes begin to bug me again. I don't know what it is, but I'm missing the warm expression. Also, is that her kissy lips? The lips seem really small to me. Looks like the model is still not perfect.
Following Improvements to her new face is expected soon. The worst part (make the face from scratch, giving a more young and innocent Peach) was already done.
EDIT: Oh...right...I've put a slight older image of the new Peach face. This one is correct (I've updated the link on the voting pool).
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