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Re: RPG Maker Hentai. New game concept

Postby ZeroEXE.ZX17 » Sun May 13, 2012 6:34 am

can i ask for one thing Starke? mind telling me where you went to learn about RPG maker? i at least one to get a game out myself as well before i start asking for help also XD so if you do not mind telling me where you went to learn about it then that would be awesome, and i'll give you a cyber cookie :D lol
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Re: RPG Maker Hentai. New game concept

Postby StarkePT » Sun May 13, 2012 7:50 am

ZeroEXE.ZX17 Wrote:can i ask for one thing Starke? mind telling me where you went to learn about RPG maker? i at least one to get a game out myself as well before i start asking for help also XD so if you do not mind telling me where you went to learn about it then that would be awesome, and i'll give you a cyber cookie :D lol


Oh wow, gee. Well I haven't got anything worth mentioning out so, probably I'm not the best person to give you tips but I'm gonna try and say everything I can:

First of all, this one is obvious, playing around with the program, I gotta let you know in advance that it IS a lot of work, I have a degree in Computer Engineering so coding isn't much of a big deal to me, neither is design since I have years of Photoshop experience. But coding (or leeching) and minor knowledge of Photoshop/Gimp/Any image editing program is required.

Leeching for things in the Internet is also required, and you're going to need a Hentai source, either 3D Custom Girl (you have to design your own) or just ripping off someone's CG out of some website (there are websites that have something like 500 CG's of the same set). You might want to go with 3DCG, do all the work yourself, install the mods and what not, still not discouraged? Ok!

I downloaded a PDF by Benko (creator of Aveyond which is a very successful RPG Maker based game) which explained a LOT about the program, you can also google if you have specific questions like, hummm, I can't see right now but even tho this is pretty obvious let's say you have animating problems, google "RPG Maker VX animation tutorial", that simple, uh Youtube is also a very good source, the hundreds of forums dedicated to it are also awesome, I mean, there's a whole world out there, all you gotta do, is put your mind into it.

All in all, experiencing is the best, get the program, buy it, download it, whatever you want to do, and just, try a lot of things, if there's something specific you can't do, THEN you can google for it, or ask me, Kita, Sey, Ker, etc. etc.
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Re: RPG Maker Hentai. New game concept

Postby ZeroEXE.ZX17 » Sun May 13, 2012 8:03 am

how much is it to buy the thing your talking about? (i think you mean the PDF thingy when you say buy XD) oh and i was going to get someone to work on the CG stuff (if it's free to use the CG girl and if i want CG) art (since i can't draw to save my life) and to write the H-scrips while i do gameplay/story/chars/norm scrips ect XD but anyways if i am going that way then before i ask for help i want to at least start the gameplay part first before asking for help, but i just wanted to ask for some good advice before i start (oh and i have no exp and i'm dyslexic ^^|| but i am great at copying things/people XD) and one last thing i wanted to ask, since the theme of my game is going to be about monster girls (if you heard of them/know the site then it is easier for me to explane lol) so i was wondering if i can make sp sprits for each monster girl that i want in the game
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Re: RPG Maker Hentai. New game concept

Postby ker » Sun May 13, 2012 8:33 am

Zero, can you retype that last post? I can't may any sense of that text wall.

Starke, could you send me a link to that pdf? Always is a good idea to polish the basic skills.
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Re: RPG Maker Hentai. New game concept

Postby StarkePT » Sun May 13, 2012 9:00 am

ker Wrote:Zero, can you retype that last post? I can't may any sense of that text wall.

Starke, could you send me a link to that pdf? Always is a good idea to polish the basic skills.


It's pretty basic stuff, I'm 100% sure you know it all but I'm going to upload it to Mediafire and send you the link.

OMG the satisfaction one has after getting his first successful random encounter or when you interact with a door and you get transported to other place is just... SO GOOD :D
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Re: RPG Maker Hentai. New game concept

Postby StarkePT » Sun May 13, 2012 9:05 am

ZeroEXE.ZX17 Wrote:how much is it to buy the thing your talking about? (i think you mean the PDF thingy when you say buy XD)


RPG Maker VX Ace is 60$, I bought it, the PDF I just found it on the internet.

ZeroEXE.ZX17 Wrote:oh and i was going to get someone to work on the CG stuff (if it's free to use the CG girl and if i want CG) art (since i can't draw to save my life)

Here's what I think that will happen when someone does the CG for you, either A) you won't like it, or B) no one will have the time to "draw" craploads of CG for you, so if you want something right, do it yourself OR leech OR use 3DCG or well there's many ways to get CG art.

ZeroEXE.ZX17 Wrote:and to write the H-scrips while i do gameplay/story/chars/norm scrips ect XD


So basically you want to write a story and have people do the game for you xD

ZeroEXE.ZX17 Wrote:but anyways if i am going that way then before i ask for help i want to at least start the gameplay part first before asking for help, but i just wanted to ask for some good advice before i start (oh and i have no exp and i'm dyslexic ^^|| but i am great at copying things/people XD) and one last thing i wanted to ask.

Yeah, first try to get some content out before asking for creation help.

ZeroEXE.ZX17 Wrote:since the theme of my game is going to be about monster girls (if you heard of them/know the site then it is easier for me to explane lol) so i was wondering if i can make sp sprits for each monster girl that i want in the game


There's TONS of sprites for monster girls on the internet, also any rendered image with the right size can be used as battlers so google is your friend, just make sure it's PNG 24 and not 8.
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Re: RPG Maker Hentai. New game concept

Postby ZeroEXE.ZX17 » Sun May 13, 2012 9:17 am

well it was just the CG/art/h-scenes (i'll try the CG's but that will have to wait untill i get my own comp back but i have no exp with the other 2 and i rather get some help because i suck while writing but i do want to try that lol) i need help with and by "art" i mean like BG of the main title and a map of the islands (thats mainly it XD) but thanks very much for the help, i even asked KITA about some gameplay idea's i had and luckly he said that all that i wanted to add can be added so yay XD (if you want to know them just ask me in a PM ^,..,^ ) but i do want to get some normal PRG goodness before asking for help at all tho lol
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Re: RPG Maker Hentai. New game concept

Postby dudelikeporn » Mon May 14, 2012 12:37 am

BlueLight Wrote:It is illegal to play a game with anyone under 18 getting fucked if you live in the USA.

Uh, no, it's legal in the US. It's highly illegal if they're actual underage kids, not drawings.

Now if you lived in Australia or Britain, that's a different thing.
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Re: RPG Maker Hentai. New game concept

Postby BlueLight » Mon May 14, 2012 1:42 am

dudelikeporn Wrote:
BlueLight Wrote:It is illegal to play a game with anyone under 18 getting fucked if you live in the USA.

Uh, no, it's legal in the US. It's highly illegal if they're actual underage kids, not drawings.

Now if you lived in Australia or Britain, that's a different thing.


If the actor is under 18 and having sex then it is illegal to distribute or watch. Now you going to be asking what this has to do with hentai.
Well games or cartoons with characters that are under 18 are illegal under this. I've seen a few games that state the characters are all over 18 and just pretending.

Handley, a computer programmer who according to defense documents spends his free time playing online games, reading comics and attending a bible study group, became interested in anime while in college in the mid-90s. He claimed he was aware of a U.S. Supreme Court ruling that struck down a law against the possession of "virtual" child pornography and didn't realize that the material in question was illegal; if he had, he said, he would "never had ordered it and would have destroyed any of it" that he owned.


http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/ ... ial?page=1

I admit that link wound't hold it's weight as a good cite but i believe that was copy and pasted from a page it links to which might; it also sounds like someone was using a writing format to write it.
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Re: RPG Maker Hentai. New game concept

Postby StarkePT » Mon May 14, 2012 2:28 am

Who cares really, no one is going to check it and the game isn't supposed to be huge, because if it is I'm a fucked and i'm getting sued by a bajillion companies for stealing soundtrack and images.
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Re: RPG Maker Hentai. New game concept

Postby ker » Mon May 14, 2012 2:44 am

StarkePT Wrote:Who cares really, no one is going to check it and the game isn't supposed to be huge, because if it is I'm a fucked and i'm getting sued by a bajillion companies for stealing soundtrack and images.


But to be on the safe side, no having scenes involving children ;) Even for me it would be distasteful.
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Re: RPG Maker Hentai. New game concept

Postby BlueLight » Mon May 14, 2012 3:45 am

StarkePT Wrote:Who cares really.


My post must have been quoted 4 times and someone said there was no such law. I think that people care and people are misinformed.
I gave a link to backup my claim and i did state that it didn't come from a news outlet like CNN but i think it's still valid.
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Re: RPG Maker Hentai. New game concept

Postby StarkePT » Mon May 14, 2012 3:52 am

ker Wrote:
StarkePT Wrote:Who cares really, no one is going to check it and the game isn't supposed to be huge, because if it is I'm a fucked and i'm getting sued by a bajillion companies for stealing soundtrack and images.


But to be on the safe side, no having scenes involving children ;) Even for me it would be distasteful.


Oh no no no, I don't like that one bit, I mean, IF THEY'RE 16 BUT THEY LOOK 18.... That's one thing.

But 6 year olds? Come on now. That's just distasteful. I don't like loli/shota.

Like I said the only scene that's going to happen when he's 6 is a small kiss in the lips with another 6 year old, and that's that, no rubbing, handy touching, nothing, just a peck, and it's going to be all in text, nothing graphical.

BlueLight Wrote:
StarkePT Wrote:Who cares really.


My post must have been quoted 4 times and someone said there was no such law. I think that people care and people are misinformed.
I gave a link to backup my claim and i did state that it didn't come from a news outlet like CNN but i think it's still valid.


Only one people discredited that law, the others just said "we don't give a sh*t" xD
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Re: RPG Maker Hentai. New game concept

Postby Seyser Koze » Mon May 14, 2012 5:24 am

The bizarro thing about the Handley case is that the material was legal to possess or to download, but importing it is a no-no.
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Re: RPG Maker Hentai. New game concept

Postby StarkePT » Mon May 14, 2012 5:34 am

Seyser Koze Wrote:The bizarro thing about the Handley case is that the material was legal to possess or to download, but importing it is a no-no.


Don't go any further, check Japan (or is it China? I think it's China) you can't even have any skulls in the games! No skulls, no skelletons, nothing! League of Legends had to change a lot of their art before the exported the game to China servers.
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Re: RPG Maker Hentai. New game concept

Postby Seyser Koze » Mon May 14, 2012 5:48 am

StarkePT Wrote:
Seyser Koze Wrote:The bizarro thing about the Handley case is that the material was legal to possess or to download, but importing it is a no-no.


Don't go any further, check Japan (or is it China? I think it's China) you can't even have any skulls in the games! No skulls, no skelletons, nothing! League of Legends had to change a lot of their art before the exported the game to China servers.

It's China, and it's a cultural thing related to respect for the dead and the depiction of human remains.

The thing with obscenity rulings is that the material itself isn't illegal simply because it's obscene. It's basically meant to be the compromise between person A's desire to look at porn and other disgusting perversion and person B's fervent desire not to look at it. The manner in which the material is displayed is of major concern, which is where a lot of the weirdness comes in: you could produce such material, keep it in your home, look at it, download it from the Internet, but not send it through the mail. Thus while the lolicon material itself is OK, you can still land in hot water depending on how you get it.

Handley was originally going to be on trial for possession of child pornography under a clause of the PROTECT Act, but the judge threw that out as unconstitutional almost immediately.
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Re: RPG Maker Hentai. New game concept

Postby Zodiark69 » Mon May 14, 2012 7:01 am

Right right... everyone get back on topic dammit!

How big are you thinking of making this game? Like DL size? Harem Size? Off the chart uber massive "Skyrim can't hold a candle to it" massive?
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Re: RPG Maker Hentai. New game concept

Postby StarkePT » Mon May 14, 2012 7:44 am

Zodiark69 Wrote:Right right... everyone get back on topic dammit!

How big are you thinking of making this game? Like DL size? Harem Size? Off the chart uber massive "Skyrim can't hold a candle to it" massive?


It will grow, I'm pretty sure it will grow eventually but it's gonna start out small (right now with the first two scenes it's standing at 40mb's), and I expect it not to go ever over 500mb's.
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Re: RPG Maker Hentai. New game concept

Postby Tortugokamikaze » Mon May 14, 2012 8:09 am

Well, enough lurking already...

I am following Despair Labyrinth very closely and I know that you take these things seriously, so I certainly have great hopes of you delivering an amazing game Starke ;)

By the way, I'm Spanish... Hello neighbour! haha

Well, hope you release soon, so we can give you our opinions and some insight or something...
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Re: RPG Maker Hentai. New game concept

Postby ker » Mon May 14, 2012 8:21 am

There is a soft-cap to the size of VX games. If you want to release them encrypted (most of us do, lets us keep the sausage-making in the kitchen so to say) the encryption of VX only allows for files of 120mb or so. I'm not sure if VX-ACE fixes that or not. What I've been having to do lately is convert the .png files that 3dcg produces to .jpg which reduces their size dramatically at a minimal quality loss in order to keep within that budget. If I didn't, Harem would already be pushing 400mb downloads for just the core game.

If Ace doesn't break that rule, you could release unencrypted and just rar the folder where the game is although with the chaotic state of downloading services atm, you'll still run into all kinds of issues distributing a game of that size.

My last piece of advice is plan your story with a pencil. The better your characters are the more they will dictate the story to you. If you resist that, you weaken the characters. If you had told me a year ago that I'd be writing scenes where you're anally raping a demoness I'd of laughed at you, but that's the next one in the queue ;).
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